Monthly ArchiveSeptember 2007



Pastor's Corner 23 Sep 2007 07:38 pm

Lies [some] preachers tell us…

I was watching Charles Stanley on TV this morning—you know, one of those televised Sunday morning church services.  His topic was sinning against God, with special attention being paid to sexual sin.  I personally don’t differentiate between sins—it’s all the same to me (and to God, I suspect).  But, he chose to focus on this, and that focus gave me something to blog about!

 He said that sexual sin involved certain consequences, among them, low self-esteem, emptiness, and shame.  And this blanket set of consequences reminded me of a little something I read in a book by Lauren Winner.  She wrote of the “lies” church folks told her concerning sex—the feelings she would have and the overwhelming sense of regret she’d experience.  Another blogger (Nick P.) summed up her thoughts nicely:“The first lie is that pre-marital sex is guaranteed to make you feel lousy. Lauren suggests that we be honest and admit that it isn’t. Many people who are Christians can have sex outside of marriage. Some will regret it, but not everyone will. This is obvious on the face of it. If this were not enjoyable, why would people keep doing it? Since when were our feelings on an activity a barometer of whether or not it was right to do so? What’s the point in God giving us laws in Scripture if our feelings are enough? Now I realize there is some validity in the natural law, but I also place great emphasis on the prepositional truth that has been revealed in Scripture. If we tell people they will feel terrible though and they don’t, will they not doubt us in other areas? “Well, the pastor said I’d feel terrible and I feel great. I wonder what else he’s been less than honest about.” We need to realize that sin can bring pleasure. After all, if it didn’t, we wouldn’t do it.

Nick brings about an important point here—one that Quakers have always recognized (even if they don’t always do so today!)—our feelings cannot be a barometer for what is right and what is wrong.  That is the worse kind of ass-backwards logic I can imagine.  Our hearts are flawed, so it follows that any decisions based upon emotion alone (notice I said alone—I am not saying emotions should not be involved) will likely be flawed as well.

So, it would be better not to lie to people when discussing the consequences of sin.  Will you be letting God down?  Yes.  Will you be breaking the law?  Maybe.  Will you feel terrible during or after your sinful activity?  Not necessarily.  I loved having pre-marital sex, and I liked getting high even more.  So an argument based on “bad feelings” would have been useless to me.  Instead, talking about my sexual safety, health, the dangers I put myself in, and the worry I put God (and probably others) through would have been a more honest argument as to why I should have stopped.  It would behoove ministers like Stanley to consider this angle—his heart is in the right place (at least I feel like it is!), but his logic is flawed, and ultimately his message is weakened because of that.   

Events 10 Sep 2007 08:31 pm

Meeting for Worship

Join us at Alan & April’s house for Worship!

Events 10 Sep 2007 08:28 pm

Ghosts of Abu Ghraib DVD

Join us for Potluck followed by the Ghosts of Abu Ghraib DVD.  I’m sure we’ll have lenghthy discussions after that!  This event will be held on Wednesday, October 24th at 6pm.  Please be aware that this is a traumatic DVD and come prepared for disturbing images and commentary.

Events 10 Sep 2007 08:20 pm

Hillel’s Big Shepherding Group!

Join us at 7PM at Alan & April’s for the first shepherding group.

Pastor's Corner 07 Sep 2007 05:59 am

Aspie quote of the day

I saw this on a site I recently joined–the Aspies for Freedom community.  It’s a place where folks with autism can talk and blog, read articles, and such.  What I like most is that they are not for a cure–a movement I have come to support in recent months.  So, here it is:

Autistic adults can seem very much like typical adults if all you have to go on is a sample of something they have written, so diagnosing autistic adults or undiagnosing them based on what they write is pretty pointless. Many autistic adults can even pass for typical adults if you sort of tilt your head at an angle and squint and if they aren’t under too much pressure and/or aren’t cutting loose at a Star Trek convention.

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